Bathmate vs Penomet – Which Hydro Pump Brand is Better?
The last thing you’ll seem to find when reading comparisons of the bathmate vs penomet is a clear answer on which is the best. There are very few comparisons out there that choose a clear victor. Most end by claiming both are great pumps, which is a cop-out of a comparison if you ask me, and not fair to you since the last thing you want to do is buy both to try for yourself. That’d be over $600! What would you do with 2 hydro pumps anyway?
Comparisons should be simple. When you compare something you want to know which is best, right? None of that “they’re both good BS.” Just pick your favorite and tell me why! So, with your time in mind I’ll go ahead and give you…
The Deal Breakers
After spending long nights doing research on the two, I’ve come up with a compelling list for why you should get one over the other. I’ve been using my Bathmate Hercules for over 2 years now, and while I’ve seen nearly an inch in growth I’m kinda getting tired of a couple things that come with using it, which you can see further below. This list doesn’t touch on those points, but it does give you the biggest reasons. There are some similar facets to them that might make them hard to compare at first -but there are a couple key differences that break the tie and put one brand ahead.
But before we get into those differences, let’s cover what the most important similarities are between the two:
- Both brands use medical grade materials. The have both had their materials certified as medically safe
- .Both brands offer 60 day money back guarantee. If you are not satisfied, you can get your money back.
With any penis pump, or male enhancment device for that matter, the above two features are an absolute must. It is the list below, that makes one brand stand out. To me, these are the deal breakers. After using a hydro pump for 2 years now, I see how important they are.
- Only one brand offers the biggest range of sizes. This is important because getting the right fit starts with using an appropriate size.
- Only one brand comes with a hand pump.
- Only one brand comes with a built-in comfort pad.
What all of these mean in my mind, is that ONE brand is easier to use, allows for more pressure control, and has more focus around comfort.
All of this puts this brand in front of their competitor. They have been in the game the longest, and I respect their dedication to making a quality, easy to use product.
Need More? Read on
There’s a lot of similarities between the two. For instance…
- Both can be used with or without water. You can use both standing up, sitting down, shower or bath, and even without water.
- Both have similar accessories available. Cleaning tools, shower straps, carrying cases, and something called Gun Oil.
- Both are based out of Europe. One in Switzerland the other in UK.
- Both increase your size. Users are getting results with each of these pumps, so both do in fact work.
- Both are manually operated. You push the pump towards you to create a seal, and as you do that water expels from the top valve, which both have. Both use springy gaitors to create the suction.
Knowing only these similarities on their own would make deciding which to buy much harder. Fortunately you already know the deal breakers, but just to bring the point home in typical PumpyD fashion -here’s the rest of the reasons.
A Nut Bustingly Uncomfortable Seal
If you read my 30 day challenge and 1 year update, you’ll know I had trouble with getting a comfortable seal, not to mention issues with unsightly swelling. I eventually discovered that starting slow and allowing time for expansion before pumping harder helped, but it didn’t solve it entirely.
That solution wasn’t full-proof, and while it helped 70% of the time, it didn’t allow me to have as short of pumping sessions as I needed. Pumping slower was taking too much time, which brought me to another solution, which is incredibly effective. Yet, even with the seal issue solved I was still left thinking if Penomet pumpers were going through the extra hassle. The whole grass-is-greener mentality can really get you sometimes.
The newer models; Hydromax x30, x40, and Xtreme come with comfort sleeves, and after testing my Xtreme x30, I am happy to report that I have little issue with seal and discomfort. The seal is great, the handpump is amazing, and with it there is an added benefit of being able to use the pump much more easily outside the shower, with just air. I believe this gives the Bathmate Xtreme a destinct advantange over the Penomet, which does not come with a hand pump!
Quality
After 2 years of my Hercules looked pretty worn, but that’s expected to come from 2 years of exposure to water. The gaitor is still very strong, and I have no problem pumping up to my max pressure. The comfort pad however did come loose at 12 months, and finally came entirely off at 14. I am now using it without a comfort pad, which isn’t all that comfortable. There’s a lot more pressure on my pelvic area than before. Wrapping before using solved that, and also HUGELY improved the seal.
The important thing to note here, is that all of these problems have been solved with the newer Hydromax models.
Like I said -the important things are still working great after 2 years. Gaitor is firmly attached. Valve is same performance. Tube looks normal. The only thing is the sticker that acts as a pressure gauge is worn and peeling, and the valve needs to be cleaned a bit. This all is expected after 2 years of hard water exposure.
One thing I will say that is positive about the penomet in this area, is that the pressure gauge is laser etched in, so it will never wear off. That’s nice, but not the biggest thing you should be concerned about.
Your big concerns should be ease-of-use, pressure control, and comfort. Bathmate simply wins in this area with their Hydromax lineup -the Xtreme being at the top of the line in terms of pressure control thanks to the awesome hand pump it comes with.
Penomet likes to emphasize quality in all their pages, but the biggest emphasis lies in something unique to them, which brings us to the next part of the comparison.
Penomet’s Swappable Gaitors? Are They Really Worth it?
The major selling point for the Penomet is the gaitor system. They are interchangeable and each one offers a different tension. Why this is a selling point is beyond me because here’s the thing -if you want more pressure you simply pump more, right? Let’s do the math, 1 pump with a stronger gaitor will equal 3 pumps with a weaker one. Sure you could max out a smaller gaitor by compressing it all the way and have to switch to a stronger one…. but…
The million dollar question is -why not just start with a strong gaitor and go slow? Going slow is indeed important to reduce swelling, but I don’t think you need several different sizes to do so. I haven’t seen a whole lot of penomet users refute this, but there sure are a lot of Bathmate fans out there questioning it like I am.
Like many, I can’t wrap my head around needing to use .
I mean, if you need more pressure, just give a quick squeeze of the hand pump on your Hyrdromax Xtreme…. why would you ever need to change gaitors to reach a higher pressure?
That makes some sense …right?
The only reason why I think they offer the gaitor system, is because it forces you to pace yourself. Instead of having unlimited access to pressure like you do with a Hydromax Xtreme, you can only go the limit each gaitor is designed to output.
If you are a minimalist, having all those gaitors and having to swap them out all the time seems more of a hassle than it’s worth. I like to keep things simple. Give me one complete pump I can use for 15 minutes, without having to stop and swap anything out. That just takes more time most people don’t have.
Stretches
A smaller reason people buy the Bathmate is because it has a firmly affixed gator. The Penomet’s gaitors have the tendency to pop off if you bend the thing at a 45 degree angle. This makes it harder to do vigorous stretches that target the part of the penis that resides in you. Having a pump that allows for different uses like this is awesome. It will be hard to do those stretches with a pump that keeps popping apart on you.
What Do You Think?
- Ability to change gaitors is why many opt for the Penomet.
- The hand pump, size range, and ability to do stretches while wearing, are why people get a Bathmate (link to their website).
For me, the best seal, the ease-of-use, and comfort makes for the best pump. After all you want one that you can easily use each day. After 2 years of use, I’ve personally learned how important these things are to keeping a consistent routine going, which ultimately leads to results!
When I upgraded to a Hydromax Xtreme, my mind was blown by how easy it was to get a seal and control pressure. As a complete package, the Xtreme is by far the best pump to use on a daily basis. If you are going to buy a pump you want one that has a great seal and doesn’t eat your nuts or leak. Where I used to wrap before using my BM, now I do not have to! It costs more, but it has everything you need to get results.
What about you? Which hydro pump brand has won your vote? Leave your vote in a comment below!
ACNY
April 22, 2014, 6:59 amHi:
I really like your site but I am really confused or on the fence about which water pump to buy. I am obsessed with my size especially in the flaccid state because that is what we guys walk around with and function with 95% of the time. I guess my erect size is respectable but flaccid size is really weak. I have tried those other pumps that are the “Austin Powers” type and I could never get a good consistent vacuum seal that was comfortable and I could “wear” or work with for awhile each day.
I just don’t want to pay 3, 4, or $500 for a pump kit when I can get the same results from a pump that cost between $100-$200. I find that reasonable if it yields some results.
What is a good pump for a guy my size? I am about 6.5″L x 5.25″W erect and then significantly less when flaccid. I am about 3″or 4″L x 3″or 4″W flaccid. Whenever I try those pumps my cock gets overwhelmed by the size of it and cannot get that real good seal. I get that you need that space to grow or pump into to accommodate the new potential growth. But still I got frustrated and felt ripped off by one that I bought. The other was just a cheap Amazon pump like the Austen Powers one that was well reviewed and was all right but just couldn’t get that good seal and expansion of tissue in the tube. Also does the penomet or bathmate help with straightening the penis? I have a downward right hook that I really hate.
What I am getting at here is to get the best pump for me that I could use for years. I hear the bathmate is fun to use and I would definitely use it everyday in the shower as all or most of use take baths or showers everyday. I would be killing two birds with one stone: getting clean and getting hung.
I have read that the bathmate or penomet could give you a good hang for anywhere from 4 to 24 hours. That would be terrific and I guess the by product or side effect of this would be some eventual growth in both the erect and flaccid state. Is this the case or am I off here?
Also a little off topic but along the same lines: are those doctor prescribed pumps that have batteries any good? They obviously don’t use water but they seem effective. They appear to be used only for getting an erection right before sex putting a ring around the base and savoring the erection for sex. I don’t have ED but might be willing to pay for one of these doc prescribed ones if they worked and I could keep it on for 20-30 minutes a day or more without harm.
Also ever heard of the Priapus shot? Seems pretty good where the doctor uses Platelet Rich Plasma from your own blood and injects it into about 5-6 areas of the penis and head. It is supposed to be good for girth and they actually say to sustain the growth both length and girth wise it is good to use a pump. Most doctors seem to prefer those Kaplan pumps but I don’t see why you couldn’t use one of these water based pumps.
Anyway thanks for your time. Hope you can help me here. Really just want to get a nice hang in my pants for work and when I go out for the night. Actually get that stupid bladder shyness but really I think I am pee shy because I am not well endowed and mostly use the stalls. Would love to have some pride and use a urinal for once and maybe wave my junk around a bit. LOL! Well probably not but you get my drift. Thanks again. Peace it!!
AC
Pumpy D
April 24, 2014, 9:20 pmHi AC, if you aren’t looking to spend much then the Hercules will do the trick. It is ideal for 7 inches and under, but has a max of about 8.5 so you have plenty room to grow, even girth-wise. I’ve gotten by with mine for 2 years now, and other than the sticker gauge wearing down and the pad coming off it is still plenty usable, and I imagine will be for many more years.
Some pumps are ridiculously huge, so I know what you mean by being overwhelmed and not getting a good seal. Unfortunately issues with sealing is common with both the penomet and bathmate Hercules, but can be solved if you give this a try. You should know The penomet is bigger than the bathmate Hercules, so if you do get overwhelmed by extra space (I do too) then the Hercules is for you.
I have heard of the Kaplan pumps, and they look like an excellent solution for anyone that doesn’t fit in the size range of a bathmate or penomet. On the other hand I’m convinced water cannot be beat. The blisters some guys get from air pumps look absolutely painful. A lot of guys wrap wet rice cloths around themselves before using an air pump to help avoid them, but even that doesn’t completely prevent them. With a hydro pump you don’t have to worry about that, and can use it on a regular basis to maintain your results. Also, like you said -you can use it to get clean and hung! If you drop some scented magnesium flakes into your bathmate you can really amplify both of those results. Women love wood that smells good, that’s for sure, not too mention rock hard which the magnesium will help do for ya!
When you first start the increase in flaccid size lasts a couple hours. The more days you use it the longer that pump lasts. I akin this to the loosening of tissue and progressing of maximum expansion. You can increase the time it lasts by rubbing an L-arganine circulation cream like this one on it. I’ve noticed a definite improvement in hang from that gel -do note that l-arginine, while potent for circulation does cause body acne for some guys, so you’ll want to decide if that’s worth it.
As far as correcting curves go pumps aren’t the right tool. Stretchers are the only doctor approved solution for curvature correction, but the good ones cost a pretty penny. If you go that route stay away from the noose extenders. They are a pain to use and should be classified as a torture device. There are some nicer models out there that grip the head with a silicon cup that are much more comfortable and practical for daily wear. Some you can even discreetly strap to your leg.
The Priapus shot eh? Can’t say I’ve ever heard of it, but you sparked this my interest. Thanks for sharing, I’ll have to read more on it.
When it comes to urinal shyness there’s nothing worse than those open troughs to challenge a guys self consciousness. Even those put the strongest of guys to the test, ha ha.
ACNY
May 3, 2014, 9:46 pmThanks Pumpy.
Wow I was really pleased with the thorough response. Usually I’ll send out a long e-mail and get a few words in response. Hate that. You showed a lot of class. So thanks again for that.
I never really knew about Magnesium Flakes or the L-Arginine cream but of course I have taken L-A supplements. Your link for the circulation cream failed. Which is the best brand? Same thing for the flakes. I’ll try both. I found a place around me that sells adult novelties and what not and they sell the Bathmate Hercules and Hydromax X40. I didn’t see the X30. The guy said he would sell me the Hercules for $110 which is what they sell it for on the web. Hate to bother you about a dilemma again but is there really that big a difference between the X30 and the Hercules. Will I b happy either way?
I don’t know if u know his site but this guy Good Looking Loser says that the x30 had better suction and doesn’t leak where the Hercules does. I don’t know maybe u don’t like him and maybe he’s full of it. But some of the things he says sound reasonable and his videos look legit. I don’t know. I am one of these grass is always greener on the other side guys. If I buy the Hercules I have a feeling in a few days I will get those pangs of guilt about not spending a little extra on the X30. I’ll see if they also have the X30 and try to get the best price on that.
It’s ok if I don’t become hung over night. I get that but if I am taking a shower anyway before I go out for the day to work or whatever it’d b nice to have a little extra hangle in my dangle. LOL! Do you recommend the shower strap as well? Again maybe I am a cheap bastard but 30 bucks for that seems expensive if I don’t really need it. Just want to preserve the thing and not risk it dropping all the time and potentially breaking.
I have tried that stretcher with the noose. It is pretty annoying and painful at times. Maybe I got a little length out of it but it was minor. I think you were referring to the Phallosan Forte. Yeah it looks pretty good. Seems like you can wear it a long time and be comfortable. It is a commitment. What I like about the Bathmate is you use it while doing another activity that you would normally do anyway.
I also wish I didn’t have such an annoying curve on my junk. Seen urologists they all seem to think it is really no big deal. It curves to the right and downward and I can still have sex with no problems just wish the aesthetics of it looked better. Most guys seem to curve up and straight. Maybe I watch too much porn because that is what it looks like.
One other thing. Do you get a sexual erection from the hydraulic pressure of the BM or is it a natural expansion of the penile tissue that occurs as a result of that pressure? Is it best to masturbate before so there is no sexual component to this at all? Maybe these are silly questions but obviously this is all new to me.
Hey man take care. Thanks again. You have been a really big help.
AC